{"id":2067,"date":"2018-02-12T19:42:58","date_gmt":"2018-02-12T19:42:58","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.mtin.net\/blog\/?p=2067"},"modified":"2018-02-12T20:11:19","modified_gmt":"2018-02-12T20:11:19","slug":"aligning-an-80ghz-link-at-a-mile-and-other-licensed-backhauls","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.mtin.net\/blog\/aligning-an-80ghz-link-at-a-mile-and-other-licensed-backhauls\/","title":{"rendered":"Aligning an 80GHZ link at a mile and other licensed backhauls"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Recently we had a teaching moment for a couple of folks who had not had much experience with aligning higher frequency\u00a0antennas with very tight beamwidths.\u00a0 This particular day we were aligning 2 foot Siklu 80GHZ antennas.<\/p>\n<p>One of the questions we often get asked is how do you align these? These questions are usually asked by someone who is familiar with aligning 5ghz antennas with a 10 or 20 degree beam which you can eyeball and has tried a microwave shot. They find out it is much harder.\u00a0 The higher you go in frequency the tighter and smaller the beam is.\u00a0 Distance also affects how far off you can be.\u00a0 Think of it as a laser pointer.\u00a0 If you have ever taken a laser pointer out at night and shone it a long distance you will notice even the slightest movement will cause it to jump inches, even feet.\u00a0 Keep laser pointer analogy in mind for this next section.<\/p>\n<p>In order to understand alignment, we need to understand lobes on an antenna. An antenna is just a device that focuses radiation in a direction.\u00a0 In a licensed microwave setup, these antennas focus the radiation in a tighter &#8220;beam&#8221;.\u00a0 Let&#8217;s go back to our laser pointer analogy.\u00a0 Some laser pointers project a smaller dot at 10 feet than others.\u00a0 Same for antennas.\u00a0 \u00a0The diagram\u00a0below shows what is called the main lobe and the side lobe.<\/p>\n<p><img data-attachment-id=\"2068\" data-permalink=\"http:\/\/www.mtin.net\/blog\/aligning-an-80ghz-link-at-a-mile-and-other-licensed-backhauls\/radar-beam\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.mtin.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/02\/radar-beam.png?fit=605%2C337\" data-orig-size=\"605,337\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"radar-beam\" data-image-description=\"&lt;p&gt;Antenna Lobes&lt;\/p&gt;\n\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-medium-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.mtin.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/02\/radar-beam.png?fit=300%2C167\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.mtin.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/02\/radar-beam.png?fit=580%2C323\" decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-2068 aligncenter\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.mtin.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/02\/radar-beam.png?resize=486%2C279\" alt=\"\" width=\"486\" height=\"279\" data-recalc-dims=\"1\" \/><\/p>\n<p>The way to get the best signal is to get both dishes locked on to the main lobe. Sounds easy right? With higher frequencies, you are talking about millimeter\u00a0waves. This means the main lobe may only be 3mm wide, about the size of this text on a laptop screen.\u00a0 Now imagine trying to keep that 3mm beam in the center of a paper plate at a mile.\u00a0 On top of that, the difference between the main lobe and locking onto a side lobe could be the difference of 1-2mm. A slight wind can move a dish 2mm.<\/p>\n<p>To give you a real-world example. A 2ft 23 GHz antenna having 3 dB beamwidth of 1.6 degrees. Allowing for a path length of about 2.5 miles (this is licensed 23GHZ) the actual beamwidth at the receiving antenna is around 370 ft and is, therefore, likely to be greater than the height of the tower. If the antenna\u2019s out of horizontal by even a couple of degrees to start, the antennas will miss by around 460 ft and not be able to \u201csee\u201d each other. This can be amplified as frequency and distance increase.<\/p>\n<p>This is all fine and dandy, but what about the practical world? How do I align the thing?<br \/>\nIt all starts with the FCC path coordination paperwork you will receive on your licensed link. There is a wealth of information in here.\u00a0 It tells you all of the following:<br \/>\n-Your mounting height (this is typically already known)<br \/>\n-Your heading (more on this in a bit)<br \/>\n-The antenna angle downtilt\u00a0or uptilt (very important)<br \/>\n-The expected signal target<\/p>\n<p>Armed with this information you will have all of the information you need to align the link.\u00a0 From this point, the philosophical side of things kicks in.\u00a0 Some tower climbers are good with using a compass to get their exact bearings.\u00a0 Others have high dollar tools to do it all via GPS such as <a href=\"https:\/\/www.sunsight.com\/products\/microwave-path-alignment\/\">microwave path alignment from Sunsight.<\/a><\/p>\n<p>What everyone doing alignment should have in their toolkit are the following:<br \/>\n-A small magnetic bubbl<span style=\"font-weight: 300;\">e Level. We want to make sure we start with a level mount.\u00a0 We would be fighting an uphill battle if the pipe or standoff we are mounting to is not level.<br \/>\n<\/span><img data-attachment-id=\"2070\" data-permalink=\"http:\/\/www.mtin.net\/blog\/aligning-an-80ghz-link-at-a-mile-and-other-licensed-backhauls\/712vjzvgwzl-_sl1500_\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.mtin.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/02\/712VjzVgwzL._SL1500_.jpg?fit=1500%2C799\" data-orig-size=\"1500,799\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"712VjzVgwzL._SL1500_\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-medium-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.mtin.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/02\/712VjzVgwzL._SL1500_.jpg?fit=300%2C160\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.mtin.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/02\/712VjzVgwzL._SL1500_.jpg?fit=580%2C309\" decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-2070\" style=\"font-weight: 300;\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.mtin.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/02\/712VjzVgwzL._SL1500_.jpg?resize=178%2C98\" alt=\"\" width=\"178\" height=\"98\" data-recalc-dims=\"1\" \/><\/p>\n<p>-An angle Finder is very helpful for determining the antenna down or uptilt per the path calculation.<br \/>\n<img data-attachment-id=\"2069\" data-permalink=\"http:\/\/www.mtin.net\/blog\/aligning-an-80ghz-link-at-a-mile-and-other-licensed-backhauls\/71efo6ekl8l-_sl1500_-1\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.mtin.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/02\/71EFO6EKL8L._SL1500_-1.jpg?fit=1500%2C1132\" data-orig-size=\"1500,1132\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"71EFO6EKL8L._SL1500_-1\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-medium-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.mtin.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/02\/71EFO6EKL8L._SL1500_-1.jpg?fit=300%2C226\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.mtin.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/02\/71EFO6EKL8L._SL1500_-1.jpg?fit=580%2C438\" decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-2069\" style=\"color: #333333; font-style: normal; font-weight: 300;\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.mtin.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/02\/71EFO6EKL8L._SL1500_-1.jpg?resize=161%2C123\" alt=\"\" width=\"161\" height=\"123\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.mtin.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/02\/71EFO6EKL8L._SL1500_-1.jpg?resize=1024%2C773 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.mtin.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/02\/71EFO6EKL8L._SL1500_-1.jpg?w=1500 1500w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.mtin.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/02\/71EFO6EKL8L._SL1500_-1.jpg?w=1160 1160w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 161px) 100vw, 161px\" data-recalc-dims=\"1\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Obviously, the above tools are just one of many examples.\u00a0 There are more expensive ones and bare bones ones.\u00a0 Tools are only as good as the person using them.<\/p>\n<p>-Ratcheting wrenches for the left and right and up and down adjustments.<br \/>\nHaving ratcheting\u00a0wrenches makes fine-tuning a very easy process.\u00a0 You will see why later.<\/p>\n<p>-A good hands-free communication method.\u00a0 Depending on the tower FM communications\u00a0may or may not work.\u00a0 Cell phones may or may not work. Being able to talk to the crew on the other end is crucial.\u00a0 And yes, to make this smooth you want a crew on the other end.<\/p>\n<p>Aligning backhauls, especially microwave, is a skilled trade.\u00a0 With any skilled trade, you will get all kinds of tips and tricks of the trade.\u00a0 Some you may use, others you may not.\u00a0 Ask any Carpenter, Drywaller, or Mason and they will tell you little tips and tricks. They probably all are great and will work, but you may only use some of them.\u00a0 I am going to tell you mine. You may find others you like better.<\/p>\n<p>We always start with a google earth plot of the path. I call this Phase 1.\u00a0 The goal of phase 1 is to get the radios talking.\u00a0 We make sure the line is exactly on the two points, not just approximate.\u00a0 If the backhaul it on the left side of the tower, we draw the line to\/from the left side of the tower.\u00a0 We then pick 2-3 landmarks along the path as we can.\u00a0 We start with something close to the tower the climber should be able to see.<\/p>\n<p><img data-attachment-id=\"2072\" data-permalink=\"http:\/\/www.mtin.net\/blog\/aligning-an-80ghz-link-at-a-mile-and-other-licensed-backhauls\/image002-2\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.mtin.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/02\/image002-1.jpg?fit=1139%2C930\" data-orig-size=\"1139,930\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;1&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"image002\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-medium-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.mtin.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/02\/image002-1.jpg?fit=300%2C245\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.mtin.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/02\/image002-1.jpg?fit=580%2C474\" decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-2072\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.mtin.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/02\/image002-1.jpg?resize=300%2C245\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"245\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.mtin.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/02\/image002-1.jpg?resize=300%2C245 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.mtin.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/02\/image002-1.jpg?resize=1024%2C836 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.mtin.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/02\/image002-1.jpg?w=1139 1139w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" data-recalc-dims=\"1\" \/><\/p>\n<p>In our photo above we have picked out two reference points close to the tower the climber can see.\u00a0 The first is the clump of trees on the climbers left.\u00a0 The path passes &#8220;just to the right&#8221; of the edge of the end of the trees.\u00a0 The second reference is the intersection of the county roads about 2-3 miles out.\u00a0 Our path should be just to the right of those.\u00a0 That point of reference is more of a sanity check. More than anything. The climber at the other end has a similar printout.\u00a0 \u00a0I have found communication during this process works best if both climbers and someone logged to at least one radio on the ground with a laptop are on a conference bridge.\u00a0 Many radios have lights, tones, or multimeter outputs to indicate signal.\u00a0 Some modern radios only have web-interfaces and apps.\u00a0 Hold a phone while trying to align can be cumbersome.\u00a0 This is where the guy on the ground can take some load off what the climbers are doing.<\/p>\n<p>Regardless of the mechanics of the radio, the goal of Phase 1 is to establish a radio link, no matter how bad it is. Now, here is where the real meat and potatoes of backhaul alignment come into play.\u00a0 This is a very deliberate and calculated process.\u00a0 Your goal at the end of the entire alignment process is to end up with the following diagram<\/p>\n<p><img data-attachment-id=\"2073\" data-permalink=\"http:\/\/www.mtin.net\/blog\/aligning-an-80ghz-link-at-a-mile-and-other-licensed-backhauls\/microwave-antenna-adjustment-3\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.mtin.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/02\/microwave-antenna-adjustment-3.png?fit=281%2C374\" data-orig-size=\"281,374\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"microwave-antenna-adjustment-3\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-medium-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.mtin.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/02\/microwave-antenna-adjustment-3.png?fit=225%2C300\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.mtin.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/02\/microwave-antenna-adjustment-3.png?fit=281%2C374\" decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-2073 alignleft\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.mtin.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/02\/microwave-antenna-adjustment-3.png?resize=225%2C300\" alt=\"\" width=\"225\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.mtin.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/02\/microwave-antenna-adjustment-3.png?resize=225%2C300 225w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.mtin.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/02\/microwave-antenna-adjustment-3.png?w=281 281w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 225px) 100vw, 225px\" data-recalc-dims=\"1\" \/><\/p>\n<p>What many folks don&#8217;t realize is it is possible to establish a signal on a side lobe. So how do you know if you are on a side lobe? Here is how we start phase 2. This is what I call fine-tuning. Real original huh? Depending on good, or lucky you were during phase 1 you may have a long way to go or a short way to go to meet target.\u00a0 Remember that in your paperwork we talked about earlier?\u00a0 One side and one side only starts moving their fine adjustment on their antenna to the left and right and up and down.\u00a0 This is typically called sweeping.\u00a0 The key thing to note here is you need to find the very edges of the radio signal, not just the lobe you happen to be on.<\/p>\n<p>Let&#8217;s take a real-world example to explain how sweeping affects main and side lobes.\u00a0 At the start of this article, we mentioned an 80ghz link.\u00a0 With our phase 1 rough alignment, we were able to get linked at a -86.\u00a0 The target was a -32.\u00a0 \u00a0The first side to start alignment started sweeping to the right, signal started going from a -86 down to a -72 rather quickly. This was using very small turns of the adjustment.\u00a0 The ratcheting wrench was only clicking 1-2 times for each 2-3 db of signal change. Once it reached a -72 it started climbing back up.\u00a0 \u00a0The climber then kept going to the right to find the edge of the signal, not just the lobe we were on.\u00a0 The signal started getting worse until we were back into the upper 80&#8217;s.<\/p>\n<p><img data-attachment-id=\"2095\" data-permalink=\"http:\/\/www.mtin.net\/blog\/aligning-an-80ghz-link-at-a-mile-and-other-licensed-backhauls\/img_3297-3\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.mtin.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/02\/IMG_3297-2.jpg?fit=4032%2C3024\" data-orig-size=\"4032,3024\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;10.616419919246&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;20&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;3.4613382086791&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;1&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"IMG_3297\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-medium-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.mtin.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/02\/IMG_3297-2.jpg?fit=300%2C225\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.mtin.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/02\/IMG_3297-2.jpg?fit=580%2C435\" decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-2095 \" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.mtin.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/02\/IMG_3297-2.jpg?resize=573%2C435\" alt=\"\" width=\"573\" height=\"435\" data-recalc-dims=\"1\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Now, the climber brings the alignment back to the left, and stops at the -72 and makes a mental note of where that is in relationship to the overall placement of the dish, etc.\u00a0 Some mounts have distinct notches, some guys use markers, others just remember.\u00a0 Now the climber continues on to the left and the -72 gets worse and goes back down to the -86 and continues to get worse.\u00a0 So the climber, at least for now, has found the sweet spot for the left and right alignment.\u00a0 The climber also knows this will probably change, but has found it for now.\u00a0 \u00a0Climber repeats the same procedure for the up and down. Due to the anglefinder, the climbers have with them they feel pretty confident they are fairly close with the up and down so they do not adjust the up and down travel as much as the procedure goes on.<\/p>\n<p><img data-attachment-id=\"2085\" data-permalink=\"http:\/\/www.mtin.net\/blog\/aligning-an-80ghz-link-at-a-mile-and-other-licensed-backhauls\/screen-shot-2018-02-12-at-1-47-04-am-3\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.mtin.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/02\/Screen-Shot-2018-02-12-at-1.47.04-AM-3.png?fit=503%2C491\" data-orig-size=\"503,491\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"Screen Shot 2018-02-12 at 1.47.04 AM (3)\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-medium-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.mtin.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/02\/Screen-Shot-2018-02-12-at-1.47.04-AM-3.png?fit=300%2C293\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.mtin.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/02\/Screen-Shot-2018-02-12-at-1.47.04-AM-3.png?fit=503%2C491\" decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-image-2085 alignright\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.mtin.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/02\/Screen-Shot-2018-02-12-at-1.47.04-AM-3.png?resize=247%2C241\" alt=\"\" width=\"247\" height=\"241\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.mtin.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/02\/Screen-Shot-2018-02-12-at-1.47.04-AM-3.png?resize=300%2C293 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.mtin.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/02\/Screen-Shot-2018-02-12-at-1.47.04-AM-3.png?w=503 503w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 247px) 100vw, 247px\" data-recalc-dims=\"1\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Next, the other side does the same procedure the first side did. They do the left to right and get the signal down to a -62. Essentially, what the climbers are trying to do is find the center, which will contain the strongest signal, by sweeping past the other signals.\u00a0 Keep in mind there may be only millimeters separating these other lobes.\u00a0 Due to physics, and the shape of the signal, the first lobe is actually stronger than the edges of the main beam.<\/p>\n<p>Say what? The first lobe is stronger than the edges of the main beam? Yes, but not stronger than the main beam.\u00a0 Let&#8217;s go back to our installers. They have each had a go around at alignment and are only at a -62.\u00a0 On a 5ghz backhaul that would be respectable, depending on your noise floor. But we are 30db away from our target of -32.\u00a0Some climbers, incorrectly I might add, try to do a shortcut by scanning in an x pattern instead of x and y-axis separately. This makes it easier to lock onto a side lobe.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_2083\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-2083\" style=\"width: 225px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><img data-attachment-id=\"2083\" data-permalink=\"http:\/\/www.mtin.net\/blog\/aligning-an-80ghz-link-at-a-mile-and-other-licensed-backhauls\/img_3317\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.mtin.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/02\/IMG_3317.jpg?fit=3024%2C4032\" data-orig-size=\"3024,4032\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;1.8&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;iPhone 7 Plus&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;1516982056&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;3.99&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;20&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0.00029197080291971&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;1&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"IMG_3317\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"&lt;p&gt;80ghz backhaul&lt;\/p&gt;\n\" data-medium-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.mtin.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/02\/IMG_3317.jpg?fit=225%2C300\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.mtin.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/02\/IMG_3317.jpg?fit=580%2C773\" decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-2083\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.mtin.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/02\/IMG_3317.jpg?resize=225%2C300\" alt=\"\" width=\"225\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.mtin.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/02\/IMG_3317.jpg?resize=225%2C300 225w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.mtin.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/02\/IMG_3317.jpg?resize=768%2C1024 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.mtin.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/02\/IMG_3317.jpg?w=1160 1160w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.mtin.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/02\/IMG_3317.jpg?w=1740 1740w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 225px) 100vw, 225px\" data-recalc-dims=\"1\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-2083\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">80ghz backhaul<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>So now our first climber goes back to making the left and right adjustments.\u00a0 \u00a0At this point, the installer finds something odd.\u00a0 He has gotten the signal down to a -55, but that&#8217;s the best he can do. Even a small turn jumps the signal up\u00a0 \u00a0 Then our installer remembers the above statement.\u00a0 The first lobe is always stronger than the edges of the main beam.\u00a0 He gets the signal back down to a -55 and turns the alignment over to the other side.<\/p>\n<p>Here is a very important thing to note.\u00a0 Both of our installers have now &#8220;gotten a feel&#8221; for the few turns needed to adjust the signal on these dishes.\u00a0 To them compared to 5ghz dishes, these are very tiny and almost insignificant movements. But they sure make a difference in signal.\u00a0 Now our installer at tower B has his second alignment session.\u00a0 As he is making adjustments the signal is not changing.\u00a0 He is moving his wrench for what seems like forever and the signal is barely moving, Any other time their signal would have been a -90 or dropped.\u00a0 What has happened here? The main lobe of one side has locked onto the first lobe because it is always stronger.\u00a0 Since the main lobe is bigger it seems like it takes forever to make any change.\u00a0 If we had a guy on the laptop he was probably also probably seeing very mismatched data rates.\u00a0 One side was probably much higher than the other by a large margin.<\/p>\n<p>Then boom, all of a sudden the signal goes from a -55 to a -42.\u00a0 A 17 db jump!\u00a0 \u00a0We can now tell we are on the main lobe.\u00a0 If the laptop person looks at the data rates now they should be more balanced.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_2076\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-2076\" style=\"width: 272px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img data-attachment-id=\"2076\" data-permalink=\"http:\/\/www.mtin.net\/blog\/aligning-an-80ghz-link-at-a-mile-and-other-licensed-backhauls\/image001\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.mtin.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/02\/image001.png?fit=272%2C69\" data-orig-size=\"272,69\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"image001\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-medium-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.mtin.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/02\/image001.png?fit=272%2C69\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.mtin.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/02\/image001.png?fit=272%2C69\" decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-image-2076 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.mtin.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/02\/image001.png?resize=272%2C69\" alt=\"\" width=\"272\" height=\"69\" data-recalc-dims=\"1\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-2076\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Data Rates on a Mimosa B11 Rates properly aligned but not fine-tuned<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>At this point, it is just a simple matter of each side making finer and finer adjustments back and forth to get the signal down.\u00a0 If you think of the above circle\/crosshair you are making smaller and smaller adjustments to nudge toward the center of the circle. This is where the ratcheting wrenches help by giving a very measured amount of travel.\u00a0 This helps with the whole feel of alignment.\u00a0 Much of it is feel to see how much you can move the adjustment mechanisms to make the numbers move.\u00a0 Sometimes it may be a single click of the wrench.\u00a0 Sometimes it may be one or two.\u00a0 It just depends.\u00a0 As you get closer and closer to target you are moving the adjustment less and less.<\/p>\n<p>As you get closer and closer to target you need to be thinking about how tightening down the adjustment bolts will affect the alignment.\u00a0 Even tightening them down snug can affect the signal.\u00a0 That extra amount movement to tighten them down can move them slightly past their alignment center.\u00a0 You may need to take into account the amount of travel it takes to tighten down the adjustment bolt into account on smaller dishes.\u00a0 If it takes a half turn of the bolt to get it tight you may need to stop a half turn and tighten &#8220;into&#8221; target.\u00a0 As you tighten it down fully that is where you end up in align.\u00a0 If you wait until you are in align and then snug it completely down, the force of snugging it down may pull it past and you will end up with a worse signal.<\/p>\n<p>This article sprinkled in some examples from a real-world install, with some theory, with some practical knowledge. Your mileage and experience will vary.\u00a0 Your experience with 6ghz vs 80ghz will vary as well. Each frequency will have it&#8217;s own quirks and tricks.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Recently we had a teaching moment for a couple of folks who had not had much experience with aligning higher frequency\u00a0antennas with very tight beamwidths.\u00a0 This particular day we were aligning 2 foot Siklu 80GHZ antennas. One of the questions we often get asked is how do you align these? 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